Monday, August 03, 2009

Rémi Brague on "Cosmology as a Postulate"?

Rémi Brague
The Legend of the Middle Ages:
Philosophical Explorations
of
Medieval Christianity, Judaism, and Islam

I'm still taking a vacation from posting on my family's vacation, but I've at least succeeded in accessing the internet from my apartment. My children's computer hasn't lost its internet connection, fortunately, and I've managed to rig up a table raising the keyboard to my adult height.

But I still will post merely a brief comment, like yesterday's, but this one on a passage in a fascinating interview that the two medievalists Christophe Cervellon and Kristell Trego conducted with Rémi Brague as a sort of introduction to his book The Legend of the Middle Ages. I wish to call into question the heading that an editor apparently provided, so I paste both the heading and the passage below, which follow immediately from Brague's remark that for modern people, "Nothing in the physical world responds to man's ethical demands":
Cosmology as a Postulate
To be sure, for premodern man, the presence of the world, which he felt as a kosmos, was not a model to be imitated in any literal sense. Pretending to believe this to be the case is unfair, as it might be amusing to explain by the use of Kant’s concepts. The role of the cosmic order is analogous to that of the postulates of practical reason. Those postulates -- liberty, the existence of a just God, and the immortality of the soul -- are of no use as a basis for moral law, which is sufficient unto itself and draws its obligation from an intrinsic authority that it has no need to borrow from elsewhere. Such postulates serve to guarantee the possibility of the supreme Good -- that is, the agreement between what the Law demands and the order of the real world. One might say that the kosmos was less a model demanding conformity than an example that shows, from the simple fact that it exists, that ethical conduct is possible. The major difference between the premodern vision of the world and Kant's morality is that realization of the good is for Kant only postulated. It remains, so to speak, in the domain of faith and hope. For men of ancient and medieval times, on the other hand, the sovereignty of the good was already given in the cosmic harmony. One only need acknowledge it.
A cursory reading of the passage seems to allow for the heading supplied, namely, "Cosmology as a Postulate," but a closer reading leads me to think that Brague would reject the heading as utterly counter to his point.

True, he says that "The role of the cosmic order [for premodern men] is analogous to that of the postulates of practical reason [for Kant]," but this is not the same as calling cosmology a "postulate." Kant's postulates of "liberty, the existence of a just God, and the immortality of the soul" all "serve to guarantee the possibility of the supreme Good -- that is, the agreement between what the Law demands and the order of the real world." The similarity is thus that "the kosmos was . . . an example that shows, from the simple fact that it exists, that ethical conduct is possible." But cosmology was not a postulate because "For men of ancient and medieval times, . . . the sovereignty of the good was already given in the cosmic harmony." Since it was already given, it had no need to be postulated.

Or so I read the passage, but perhaps Brague, or some other expert, could clarify this point.

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At 9:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not qualified to speak on this subject, but will cite some scripture that might be germane:

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unti night sheweth knowledge.
There is no speech or language, where their voice is not heard.
{Yet} Their line is gone out throughout all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.
(Psalm 19:1-4 KJV).

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold {down} the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
(Romans 1:18-20, KJV),

Nor am I a computer expert, but I had a computer that quit connecting to the internet after a thunderstorm, and it turned out that the modem was burned out.

And after casting these few pearls of wisdom, I yield to JK, the mysterious personage of unknown origin or address.

Cran

 
At 9:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the benefit of JK, Jeffery and nephew "Bill," the phrase of Psalm 19:2 should read:

Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto speech sheweth knowledge.

I am not speaking {writing} with a lisp, just using the ancient King James Version, (since I am now ancient, myself).

Cran

 
At 9:23 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Uncle Cran, those texts would surely be part of what informed the premodern Western view of the cosmos.

But I'm still wondering about Brague's meaning.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 3:11 AM, Blogger Adeimantos said...

R. Brague is a very astounding French scholar, primarily focused on Plato and Aristotle. When he graduated, near 1978, he was a great reader of Leo Strauss et alii . He explains somewhere that he was concerned by Strauss theory of "art of writing", but I think Strauss played a wider influence, although Brague is not a Straussian. He is involved with certain trends of the phenomenological Catholic stream either. He is a "philosophe chrétien", whatever this formula means (see E. Gilson).

 
At 6:44 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Adeimantos, thanks for visiting and adding information about Brague. I know of him primarily through his book Eccentric Culture, which I've often recommended to students and have now recently re-read. I intend to read more of his works sometime soon.

Jeffery Hodges

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