Friday, September 12, 2008

Dr. Zakir Naik on 9/11

United Airlines Flight 175
Crashing into WTC North Tower
National Post, Toronto, Canada
(Image from Newseum)

I receive regular emails from the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI), and just two days ago, a dispatch arrived with the heading "Indian Muslim Cleric Zakir Naik: 9/11 Was Carried Out by George Bush Himself" (Special Dispatch No. 2047, MEMRI, September 10, 2008).

Apparently, Dr. Naik is a medical doctor, but he also speaks and writes on Islam and comparative religion, according to MEMRI, and he serves as president of the Islamic Research Foundation, which broadcasts a program from Mumbai called Peace TV.

The following is an excerpt from a lecture that he presented on Peace TV on July 31, 2008:
I can prove that 9/11 was an inside job. I've got the proof that can defeat the proof that has been proven by the people. Just a few days back, there was an article that came in the newspaper, that 75 professors from the U.S. say and believe that 9/11 was an inside job. And in that article, it was mentioned . . . It came in The Times of India, I think on the 7th of September. It says that 75 professors and scientists, belonging to different universities from different parts of the U.S., believe that 9/11 was an inside job. They say that there were some politicians in the White House who engineered the destruction of the Twin Towers, and, they say, the main reason was so that they could attack, and they could have control of the oil-rich countries. Open secret, I told you.
Dr. Naik has a very different understanding of "proof" than I do if he thinks that the claims of 75 professors and scientists constitutes proof. But what can one expect from a man who would say "I've got the proof that can defeat the proof that has been proven by the people."

Dr. Naik does offer a bit of evidence, citing one of the professors: "It cannot be a passenger carrier. It looked like a military plane."

I'm no more of an expert than Dr. Naik, but the image above, which can be found and seen more clearly here, looks exactly like a passenger plane to me.

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At 10:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeffery,

There is one passage in particular from Naik's Islamic Research Foundation web site which displays the full 'glory' of this man's (what we are supposed to call) thinking. At http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/mcqnm11.htm , at the end of his explaining why the eating of pork is forbidden in Islam, Naik says this:

"The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say 'you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.' If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs."

The unfortunate thing is that such 'thinking' which is not even substantial enough to be called trash produces admirers in droves.

This, of course, is not a Muslim problem; it is sufficiently common to be properly regarded as a human species problem, but at least you have a fuller picture of this character called Zakir Naik.

Michael

 
At 4:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the planes that crashed into the twin towers (and the Pentagon) were military planes and not passenger jets, I'd be interested to know where the passenger planes that left from various airports ended up, if not in NY and Washington, and what happened to all the passengers and crew on those airliners, who have been missing for years. I notice, too, that the plane that crashed into the field in Pennsylvania was a passenger jet, not a military plane.

I also wonder how crashing into the WTC and the Pentagon transformed the military jets into the identifiable wreckage of passenger planes.

And am I to believe that the military actually attacked ITSELF by flying a plane into the Pentagon? Naturally, I have serious doubts about that, especially since, if all we wanted to do was get access to oil, we could have begun a war on terror in the Middle East without attacking the Pentagon. Taking down the WTC would have been quite enough.

That's my way of saying that Zakir Naik is a world class crank.

 
At 4:42 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Michael S. Pearl, thanks for sharing that disturbing 'Zakirism' about the shamelessness of pigs and the side effects of consuming pork.

I'd never heard that pigs themselves are sexual libertines -- nothing like bonobos, for example -- but I had heard the Muslim belief that eating pork makes one sexually promiscuous.

There's probably some hadith...

Jeffery Hodges

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At 4:50 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Michael Bauman (gotta keep the Michaels straight in these replies), thank for the rhetorical questions, which I share.

As for America's putative aim of grabing Iraq's oil . . . well, I'm still waiting for that to happen. So far, the US has invested a lot of money on this war but hasn't made a dime's profit in return, so perhaps economic motives were absent.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

A mere 75 "Professors and Scientists"? Dr Naik is doing his case an injustice. Go to "Patriots Question 911" and you'll find well in excess of a 1000 professors, scientists, senior military and intelligence personnel, architects and engineers who have grave doubts about the official 911 story. Then keep an open mind long enough to look at "The Complete 911 Timeline", available at "History Commons", "The Journal of 911 Studies" and the online works of Peter Dale Scott and David Ray Griffin. All very unsettling.

This is not to endorse any of Dr Naik's views (doubtless, he is a crank). But it is to say that we should also be cautious about the Bush Administration's account of events, given what is at stake in whether it is reliable or not.

And regarding "not a dime's worth of profit". Not for the US govt perhaps. But the oil Giants expelled under Saddam are well and truly back in the picture. And Halliburton is making a killing.

 
At 1:16 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Anonymous, thanks for the comment.

I've looked at some of this material before -- such as arguments by David Ray Griffin -- but I'm not convinced.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 1:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair enough. We probably don't have enough information for definite positions at this point, and maybe never will. But for the time being I think it pays to be skeptical (and the sites I suggested are worth a look, particularly Peter Dale Scott, a friend and translator of Czeslaw Milosz).

Scott

 
At 1:37 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Thanks. If I find time, I might look into it again.

By the way, I know a number of men named "Scott." Do we know each other?

Jeffery Hodges

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At 2:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

no doubt about is its american fake plan against islam.

 
At 3:15 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Nadia Khan said:

"no doubt about is its american fake plan against islam."

Was Bin Laden lying when he took credit for the 9/11 attacks on behalf of Al Qaeda?

Jeffery Hodges

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At 9:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No doubt that excert of his speech was chopped to prove your point...
But anyway there is ALOT of proof that 9/11 was fake:
1.The planes that crashed was completly destroyed, the freaken black box was not found (they say that it was blow into peaces) and yet they found the passport (made of paper) of the suspected terrorist.
2.Speaking of suspected terrorist, those that suposedly died in those attacks (some) are still alive and well, living in their native countries.
3.E-mails were sent to all major politicians not to fly on 9/11
4.The video that shows Osama taking credit is very unclear but at one point he raises his hand to and u can see that he is wearing a gold ring. Men are forbiden to wear gold in Islam, Osama of all people would follow this rule.
5.There is video taken of the building when they are falling, u can clearly see flashing lights going off one by one. Explosives?
6.All bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the two buildings prior to the attacks
theres more
pls excuse typos im in a hurry

 
At 10:02 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Anonymous, why should I believe anything that you say? For all I know, you're part of a conspiracy intent on proving that 9/11 was an inside job.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 11:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

theres this documentary were i got all this info from, i'll give u the name once i find it
gimmie a day or two

 
At 1:46 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Okay.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 5:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/11 was only doing becoz america wants strategic location to sit in afghanistah.If it is in afghanistan then it can destroy china,iran,india easily.proof that 9/11 was fake:1.The planes that crashed was completly destroyed, the freaken black box was not found (they say that it was blow into peaces) and yet they found the passport (made of paper) of the suspected terrorist.2.Speaking of suspected terrorist, those that suposedly died in those attacks (some) are still alive and well, living in their native countries.3.E-mails were sent to all major politicians not to fly on 9/114.The video that shows Osama taking credit is very unclear but at one point he raises his hand to and u can see that he is wearing a gold ring. Men are forbiden to wear gold in Islam, Osama of all people would follow this rule.5.There is video taken of the building when they are falling, u can clearly see flashing lights going off one by one. Explosives?6.All bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the two buildings prior to the attacks.
7.In pentagon a women who see this she says there is no plane crashed on pentagon.she says it looks like a rocket and after that she also says actually planewas crashed.
8.when pentagon released the vedio we can see that it only shows flame not plane.ok if it is a plane crashed the stupid christans are you seen the flame colour u.s top offical say this flame colour was change.it shows that is plane was not crashed .okif again say that i am wrong so stupid people have you see the video which was released by the pentagon you can see the the whole created but infact when plane crashed then it doesn"tcerate whole.so it was doneby the america no muslims.

 
At 7:11 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Anonymous, I've heard these claims before.

Since Al Qaeda has repeatedly taken responsibility for the attacks, since we have passengers' accounts via cell phone, and since Islamist groups hate the US and repeatedly threaten terrorist attacks -- along with understanding that I've gained from thousands of other things that I've read on Islamism, 9/11, and terrorism -- I see no reason to think that 9/11 was an 'inside job'.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 12:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are willing to find the truth,you will find it. You just have to look in the correct places.Don't be one sided against Islam and leave sarcastic remarks like that.If you want some more proof,look at 'IN PLANE SIGHT'by a non-muslim american radioshow host announcer.Surprising enough,he spoke of people like you.

 
At 5:58 AM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Anonymous, I don't recall saying anything "one sided against Islam," but I did "leave sarcastic remarks" about Dr. Zakir Naik, who clearly deserves sarcasm for his fatuous reasoning and flimsy evidence.

I don't know what you mean when you refer to people like me, so I won't respond to that point, other than apophatically.

So far, I see no good reason to doubt that Al-Qaeda planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks, nor has Al-Qaeda seen fit to deny having carried out the attacks -- indeed, Al-Qaeda's spokesmen pride themselves on having humiliated America through 9/11.

Jeffery Hodges

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At 10:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"CONSTRUCTIVE.CRITISCISM HEALTHY.HEALING DEBATE.DIALOGUE WIDELY.WELCOME ALWAYS.ALLWISE"


NOBODY IS PERFECT

Since Dr Zakir's very busy usually,
except for UNIQUE.UNDERTAKINGS requring him,

APT.AUDIENCE, TUN.ING.TIME.LY, WORTHY.WHILE enough to standardizedly.moderately CLEAR.CLEAN undue accusations & to ADDRESS.AD real people,

after presenting these issues to dr naik & irf,

if u wish to publicize them FOR.USE on a RIGHTER NOTE LEGIBLY.LEGALLY on a LASTING BASES.

OTHERWISE/ELSE, what u or anybody who stops with opining blindly alone or with common sense alone,

CREATES CONFUSION & prevents COMMUNAL COMMUNICATION easily.

"WELL.WISH ALL.APT WITH.WILL ALLAAH.ALLOTS WRT lives combining both H&H"

 
At 10:29 PM, Blogger Horace Jeffery Hodges said...

Anonymous, I have no idea what your comment means.

Jeffery Hodges

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